By KLTV Podcast Network –

Welcome to It’s Not Black and White, a podcast hosted by Jo Fletcher-Saxon and Michelle Brown, where they explore complex and often challenging topics through collective thinking and open discussion.

This special episode, created to mark International Women’s Day 2025, focuses on race and identity.

Jo, a white woman working in the public sector and identifying as working-class, and Michelle, a black woman running her own PR and marketing business, share their perspectives and experiences on how racial identity shapes the way individuals navigate the world.

The conversation explores key questions about cultural connection, code-switching, and misconceptions, offering personal reflections and broader insights into identity.

They also discuss allyship, privilege, and the importance of supporting women from different racial backgrounds in affirming their identities.

Through honest discussion and thought-provoking questions, this episode aims to challenge assumptions, encourage deeper understanding, and highlight the power of listening and learning from one another.

It’s Not Black and White will continue to tackle important issues, demonstrating that when it comes to race and identity, the conversation is never just black and white.